ever so slightly obsessed ([info]sweetrush) wrote,
@ 2008-03-28 08:41:00
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Sex is fun - play with it
I think I kind of wrote myself into a corner with my first post. I'm afraid not all of my posts are going to be quite so carefully researched and argued, sometimes I'm just going to blather and rant about things that have caught my interest lately. This post is one of those kinds.

By the way, I shamelessly stole the title for this post from the Sex is Fun podcast, so I should say at this point that they are highly recommended. While I've only listened to a few episodes, they consistently impressed me with the accuracy of their knowledge, their open mindedness, and of course their sense of fun.

And that is what we are going to discuss here, because I think it's one of the most under talked about and under valued aspects of sexuality.

A long, long time ago, in the days before this account or anything like it existed in my life, I was bored and Googled my first name. The third hit sent me to the website of a woman in a 24/7 TPE BDSM relationship, and her website included links to hundreds of articles and resources on BDSM in general. This was my first introduction to the concept, in fact I don't think I even knew what it meant before then.[1]

I was immediately attracted to the language used in these writings, even when I had no interest in the particular kink being described. They talked about doing 'scenes', about trying out 'roles', and the most common term they used for what they did (which is after all not exactly 'sex' as that word is traditionally used, as it doesn't necessarily involve the genitals), was 'playing'.

Even at that tender age I thought this was a pretty neat way of thinking about it. There seemed to be a sense of fun and theatricism built in to the language itself which had a great appeal to me. I loved the idea that you could just try things, that you could (in a safe environment) play with ideas and sensations and power, explore what pushes your buttons and delight in it, and then go back to normal.

I was later to discover that my reading was far from universally accepted, and it's certainly not the only way to practice BDSM (I'm in no way an expert on that) but as you can see it made an impression.

I think the idea of sex as playful is something that's just not given enough consideration in general. From the deadly serious 'if you have sex you will get pregnant and die' abstinence messages, to the columns in women's magazines that tell you exactly what positions to use, what lingerie to wear and what lines to say, to solemn soft-focus 'lovemaking'... we seem to have lost all sense of fun and experimentation and of the endlessly fascinating possibilities sex can involve. And that's a real shame.

We get a whole load of messages about what sex and sexuality should be like, but surprisingly few of them are playful. These things should turn you on, this is how normal people masturbate, the first time is painful, PIV is the ultimate expression of love and sexuality, all men like blowjobs, no women like giving them, most people have sex X times a week... these are all 1) focused on specific acts and products, reducing having a good sex life to just going through the motions, and 2) contribute to the feeling that there is an ideal sex life out there and that (most likely) yours does not fit the mold. In fact it definitely doesn't, since there are enough contradictions buried in those messages to make it actually physically impossible to fulfil them all. And yet we still get the feeling that we would be happier if we did.

This kind of pisses me off, to be blunt. Why the hell do we need these shoulds and these insecurities about sexuality? What on earth is the point, what do we gain? And what gives anyone the right to say what kind of acts and feelings and atmospheres the whole world ought to enjoy? It's such an incredibly limited view of sexuality. Just like taste in food or clothes or anything else in life, what fits one person really well is not necessarily going to work for anyone else, let alone everyone else.

I would say that the point is to find what works for you, but somehow we're scared of what that might turn out to be, and of what we might do if we admit it to ourselves. But really, why shouldn't we be free to explore what makes us feel all warm and tingly and content and satisfied? What, really, is the worst that's going to happen?

I've found this apprehension can be seen most clearly in people's attitudes to masturbation. With partner sex there's a very real fear of rejection, that you'll scare them off or bore them or otherwise not quite measure up. None of that applies when people are just alone with themselves, but that doesn't mean we drop our inhibitions as soon as we're alone in a room.

I was saddened but unsurprised to find that my recent poll in [info]sextips showed plenty of women who don't think they're masturbating in the normal/right/correct way, even in this sex positive and informed environment[2]. If you think about this concept with a little bit of distance, it gets really weird. Why, objectively, should it matter what people do and think about to get off when they're completely alone? I'm not talking about porn, which does in a way involve other people and an entire industry to which there are some valid objections. I'm talking about what people do with their own two hands and their fantasies, and I just can't see where the harm is in letting go and not fretting about whether they're receiving pleasure in the 'correct' or 'normal' way.

And it's weird because even very sensible and enlightened people who agree with this in principle can suddenly take objection about certain specific things. For example, a while ago I did a quick survey of people who happened to be online on my IM list at the time. I asked them what they thought of people fantasising about people they know IRL who aren't their partners. Given that this was my msn list, I was surprised at how uncomfortable people were with this idea, either of being thought of or doing the thinking. All but two people I asked thought this was unacceptable, or at least highly undesirable and should be limited as far as possible.

I think this comes from not really seeing a firm dividing line between fantasy and reality. As though they were somehow involved if someone had fantasies about them, and so this should require their consent, which I don't think is accurate. You aren't involved - their thoughts of you are. And I think this also stems from the same fear of what might happen if we relaxed and didn't police these matters. As though the force of sexuality unleashed would be enough to tear down all pretences at decent and ethical behaviour, and people would leer and grab instead of politely keeping their thoughts to themselves.

In case it's not obvious, I don't buy that this is true. And perhaps if we stopped taking ourselves so very seriously, we would give ourselves more room to have fun with our fantasies and our bodies. I think we should remember that it's something we are allowed to play with. Another thing I like about using the word 'play' is that it implies safety.

Just because something occurs to you doesn't mean you find it hot even in fantasy, let alone in real life, let alone that you have to go through with it. Your own head should be the ultimate 'safe space', in which you're allowed to do whatever you bloody well like without fear of recrimination - because in the end, you're not affecting anyone else, so objections on moral grounds just don't apply.

I'm not saying sex should always be playful. Sometimes it is solemn, or on the flip side so frantic that it doesn't have the kind of emotional distance implied by the word. But on the whole, sex is a lot more fun when it's, well, fun! If you allow yourself to try new things and think new thoughts and be completely silly and just play with it. It's a pretty ridiculous act if you stop to think about it, so I think we can all just relax a bit and just do whatever feels good instead of limiting ourselves to only a few approved types of sexual expression.

This post wanted to sprawl in several directions and I could have written a good few thousand words more about each, but I will leave it there for now. What do you guys think? Can indulging fantasies be dangerous or unhealthy? Are some thoughts better left unencouraged? Is there a correct or superior way to have sex?



[1] For those now curiously Googling: I followed her journal for quite a while after that, out of sheer curiosity and a weird sense of kinship for sharing my name, and eventually (about two years ago) the relationship disintegrated, she stopped using the name her 'master' had given her, and took the site down. Nothing to see here, move right along.

[2] Okay, that's a bit of a generalisation. 600 people have taken my poll to date, and the majority of them are not [info]sextips regulars (there aren't that many of us!), they're just passing through. But I still think we should expect responses to be more sex positive and confident than the general population.



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On laughter
[info]elettaria
2008-03-28 11:49 am UTC (link)
It's odd, right now I'm listening to a book which is all about sexual repression and fear of laughter, only it's about a medieval monastery (The Name of the Rose). I suspect the two frequently go together, and it's about setting up a status quo where authority must not be questioned. For instance, many men are terrified that they will be laughed at in bed, which I think is one reason why sex is so often presented as something solemn and earth-shatteringly meaningful and so forth (not to mention the myth that the best way to give tumultuous pleasure to a woman who's not had sex before is lots of PIV sex with minimal foreplay - read a few romance novels if you don't believe me). And let's face it, the reaction of many women when they first see male genitalia is to giggle, including the ones who are giggling silently so as not to freak out the poor sensitive male. If you ever read Fanny Hill, a pornographic novel written in the 18th century by a gay man and narrated by a female prostitute (and considered a classic of sorts, it's taught at the uni I did my undergrad at for instance), it's full of unintentionally hilarious descriptions of male bits, viewed longingly by the inexperienced Fanny. Cleland seemed to think that yer average virginal maiden is going to swoon orgasmically at the mere sight of testicles. And don't get me wrong, they have their charms, but they're really not that intrinsically beautiful. Of course, then you get the opposite problem of people who like sexual pleasure but don't like the sight/taste/feel of genitals, and may even be afraid of them. I once read an article in a women's magazine where the author advised that men should keep their underpants on right until the last possible moment during sex, because who wants to see that?

The expectation that sex is going to be something perfect, beautiful, solemn, and with simultaneous orgasms every time, with no mess or slips, is so ridiculous as to be downright damaging. I do worry a bit about all those people who are saving sex for their wedding night and expecting it to be like that (have you seen all the VP posts about "I MUST rearrange my menstrual cycle/hymen so that I can have perfect first-time penetrative sex on my wedding night!"), but let's hope they work out the reality happily enough once they get started. It tends to go hand-in-hand with other damaging myths, such as the myth that PIV sex is the best way to get a woman off and women who don't get off this way are abnormal, or the myth that lube is a sign that you're doing something wrong.

I can't imagine having a happy sexual relationship that didn't involve silliness. The silliness is fun, and it's good, and it's hot. D and I are so silly together that we have to make an effort not to irritate our friends with it! And actually, silliness can be dangerous at times: he tends to sneak up on me and grope me when I'm cooking, and I don't hear him because of the noise of the extractor fan and yelp and jump in surprise (I startle easily), and it's a marvel there haven't been any cooking burns yet. We randomly dance around the (very small) kitchen together. We pounce on each other at strange times or joke about being on "autogrope". We have a complicated system of nicknames for each other that you don't want to hear about. We often laugh while making love.

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Re: On laughter
[info]sweetrush
2008-03-28 06:25 pm UTC (link)
Haha I love silliness but you have moved firmly into what I would classify as 'soppy' territory there, which is rather less my thing. As always though, whatever works :)

I agree completely on the unreasonable expectations. I always wonder how those stories end. Of course the ones that post for advice afterwards are those who had an absolutely horrible time, but I like to think that's not always the case. Generally I take heart if they've already experienced being naked and turned on in front of each other in some form, PIV isn't that great a leap from there and they'll probably figure it out okay. It's the ones that go 'oh noes we must not experience any form of sexual passion until after the ceremony, and then of course we'll be perfectly equipped to have penetrative sex' that scare me.

There are so many stupid and damaging myths out there that I'd max out the comment length if I tried to list them all. But the biggest myth that they all contribute to is that there is a 'right way' to do it, and we're all abnormal and flawed in comparison. So we've all got to hide our ignorance and our little quirks, and read magazines for the flab-hiding position of the week, so out partner doesn't find out we're messy, complicated human beings with imperfect bodies and we never get laid again.

*cough* fed up, moi?

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[info]elettaria
2008-03-28 12:04 pm UTC (link)
You're surprised that a lot of people feel that fantasising about someone other than your partner is unacceptable? For starters, I think you're assuming that everyone is able to draw that dividing line between fantasy and reality perfectly. In fact, some can and some can't. Many people find that fantasising about someone changes the way they behave towards them (even if it's just being guiltily nervous around them), and that regularly indulging in a fantasy about that person can encourage them to make a move on that person. This can lead to infidelity, or two people getting together who weren't suited but spent so much time imagining sex that they overlooked that, or in extreme cases, behaviour such as stalking. A woman I know is having trouble with a workmate who's pursuing her despite her firm message that she's not interested. They're both aged around sixty. He's started sending her expensive gifts and dropping hints about getting a double bed, and leaves long ranting messages on her answermachine. He's never had a relationship in his life, has mental health problems and poor social skills, and it sounds as if he's been building on the friendship she showed him in unrealistic ways and allowing his fantasies to run away with him. She's started talking to the police about what to do if he doesn't stop.

On a cheerier note: one of the most lovebirdy couples I know is my mother and stepdad, who married in 2000, and they are distinctly silly together. They have a conker which they take turns to hide so that the other will find it. There have been several times when I've been visiting and one of them has suddenly paused and extracted a conker from a slipper they were putting on, or the butter, and said, "This time it's war!" Absolutely adorable.

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[info]sweetrush
2008-03-28 12:59 pm UTC (link)
I always look forward to your comments :D

I'm not surprised that people in general are, I'm surprised that my friends were :)

It's kind of like porn. I don't disapprove of it, but I do expect people to actually think about it for a bit and then decide on the course of action they think is moral. If someone actually has reason to think their fantasies blur into real life and negatively affect the way they behave towards people, and that repressing them is healthier for them, then, well, okay! I'm happy to take their word for it, and think they should follow through.

But I just don't buy that on the whole it's these guys fantasies that are causing them to be creeps. It's a lack of respect for the object of their affection and other people's boundaries in general, and those are absolutely not the same thing, although they often get conflated. I find loads of people hot, but that doesn't force me to stalk them. The one doesn't necessarily lead to the other, and in any case, how are you going to get into people's heads and stop them from thinking about things that turn them on?

Of course just because someone turns you on enough to fantasise about them doesn't negate your obligation to act ethically towards them. But acting ethically is a responsibility we can't put down regardless of whether we're attracted to someone and/or actually sleeping with them.

I dunno, I mean, we're adults. Kids (by which I mean four year olds) often treat their make-believe games as though they're real, but in my experience it's a distinction that's learned very early on in life. Another of the resonances 'play' has for me is that there's a kind of selfconscious and distance to it - that you're aware of the unreality of it all, and can kind of give yourself the space to enjoy it with an indulgent smile as well as whatever other feelings are involved, and then put it aside afterwards. That's not the same as having an obsession and/or mental health problems to go with it.

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[info]imgomez
2008-03-28 12:33 pm UTC (link)
I've been enjoying the Sex is Fun podcast from the start - it's produced here, in Minneapolis and I have shopped at the Smitten Kitten store. I also highly recommend the audiobook podcast, Diary of an SM Romance. Intelligent, thoughtful kinky fun. The couple also produces Submission and Coffee. They are wildly prolific, sometimes producing several hours of programming per week.

Re: Sex and humor. I love to be playful. Silliness and laughter are a big part of my life. But when it comes to sex, I find it discordant to mix them. That's not to say that nothing funny ever happens when you're in the heat of the moment, but I definitely prefer a smoldering intensity and focus. I like it when we both slip down into that sultry, flared-nostril, dilated pupil state where everything is a little slower and more deliberate. I was once in a three-way situation where the third person - another guy - was nervous and kept laughing and making silly comments. It was kind of a buzz-kill, the way it kept dispelling the intensity that we were craving.

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[info]sweetrush
2008-03-28 04:16 pm UTC (link)
You're the one who originally linked me I think :) I haven't listened to too many because there's not much in them that's new to me, but I found nothing to fault in the ones I did hear. It's so lovely to be able to listen in on a mixed-gender group of informed and articulate people chatting about these things. And even in sex positive circles the 'sex is fun' angle isn't always given much attention. I think their sheer enthusiasm is great.

I find it interesting to hear that you don't like to mix sex and laughter. Laughter isn't always appropriate, certainly, and I can see how it could be an annoying distraction in some contexts (particularly 'silly comments' which by the sound of it were kind of intended to break the mood), but I for one don't find lightheartedness detracts from my enjoyment in general. The kind of sex you describe sounds super hot and I know exactly what you mean, but I wouldn't be happy with it being the only way I have sex. And I don't think things need to be serious to be intense. I guess overall I like my sex with a smile :) It's fascinating to see just how different people's tastes are. Of course the important thing is that your sex life works for you. I just think that fun and laughter is an aspect of sexuality that's not given much attention and that people can be a bit scared of allowing themselves to have.

[Edit] To me it kind of relates to the fear we see a lot in [info]sextips, when people are posting about new stuff they want to try that they want to get exactly right first time so as to avoid humiliation. Screw that. I mean I think practical advice is great and I enjoy dishing it out, but I don't like this feeling that 'mistakes' are the end of the world, will 'kill the mood' and completely ruin your sex session (and your partner's good opinion of you). Where's the playfulness, the exploration, the fun in these situations? We need to allow ourselves to just try things out without too much pressure.

Edited at 2008-03-28 04:25 pm UTC

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[info]twisted_times
2008-03-31 09:47 am UTC (link)

Unless you're very lucky, you you're not going to get anything "exactly right" the first time. I always say you should try anything at least three times with a few exceptions: once to get the gist of it, twice to work out all of the moves and the third time once you know more-or-less what tyou're doing to decide whether you like it or not.

To give an anaolgy, if you step onto the dancefloor to try a new dance, you'll spend the first couple of dances getting the measure of yourself, your partner and how you're interacting together. It takes time to get it all worked out - I'm still working on it and I've been at it for years! ;p

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[info]twisted_times
2008-03-28 01:05 pm UTC (link)

It's official - sex is fun! So ner. ;p

It's not called "sex play" for nothing - being sexual with someone is the ultimate in adult playtimes you can get. It allows to do a bit childhood regression in some ways, as you let go and enjoy yourself, either on your own or with others.

To my mind, if you're not having fun the majority of the time when you're having sex, you're not doing it right. Of course, how you do it "right" is entirely down to how you so desire to please yourself (and your partners, for that matter).

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[info]sweetrush
2008-03-28 11:02 pm UTC (link)
Is it? I wasn't sent the memo!

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[info]twisted_times
2008-03-31 09:42 am UTC (link)

I'll text it to you. ;)

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[info]mrkgnao
2008-04-09 11:42 am UTC (link)
Another wonderfully sensible and insightful post, my dear.

Of course, I agree (who wouldn't?) - sex is, and should be, fun.

But I think it's actually difficult to get into a (conceptual, not a literal! =P) space where you can actually allow yourself to engage with the lighthearted/amusing side of sex i.e. see the funny side. I mean, people are often so concerned with sex of performance, of doing it right, or the business (if I can use that word, I think it is appropriate actually) of getting pleasure and giving pleasure, that they react against the background knowledge that I think we all on some level possess - that sex is actually a bit ridiculous, wonderful but ridiculous - by taking it very seriously indeed. Sex - even casual sex, I would argue - makes you vulnerable and being silly, equally, is another kind of vulnerability.

Also I think it's hard to make "silly sex" successful in the same way that non-silly sex. I suppose what I'm trying to say is here, in bald terms, that it's not an efficient route to orgasm: and, of course, sexual success tends to be measured by orgasm. by being experimental and giggly, I find, you tend to have quite chaotic, rather messy sex that often doesn't quite go "right" (i.e. you fall off the bed, or he's too incapacitated with laughter to get it in properly) and you end up in a sweaty, giggly heap - it's deeply satisfying in a similar and yet different way to non-silly sex but it's not exactly the sort of thing you'd write up as an exemplar in a sex book. Or, equally, probably talk about to someone else about it. I mean, no matter how satisfied you were by it, you still would probably chalk it up as a failure.

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[info]sweetrush
2008-04-09 08:36 pm UTC (link)
*blush* thank you, have a flirty icon :)

I agree completely. It's amazing how many people seem to prefer the security of knowing you've ticked all the boxes (I'll know we're having Good Sex when we go for more than 20 minutes and both come, sort of thing) over actually enjoying yourselves fully in whatever form that would take. I find it really interesting that we're so goal oriented in these matters, when objectively there's no real reason for X position/frequency/number of orgasms to be preferable to any other. Of course I've just dismissed a whole pile of cultural and personal insecurities as 'not real' there, but you get what I mean...

Oh also, I should clarify that I didn't mean to imply that all sex should be silly all the time. More that silliness does have its place, and I wish the idea wasn't so threatening (although I certainly understand why it is). Basically, as you say, it's not a bug it's a feature :) Although it really doesn't have the same bragging rights, does it!

And also by 'fun' I don't exclusively mean silliness. To me it's a broader sort of idea, about being relaxed and open minded about pleasure and thus also about getting things 'wrong', because you realise that in most cases it's not actually going to do either of you any harm if you just look a bit ridiculous or whatever. For example, just after I wrote this post there was a whole row of [info]sextips posts in which people were asking 'how do I initiate sex/initiate oral sex/give a handjob/give a blowjob'. This isn't 'I'd like some ideas I haven't thought of that will be awesome!' but more 'I'm scared I'll get this wrong, please tell me the correct way to do it so s/he doesn't laugh at me'. That is the kind of thing I'm grumbling about, not hot serious intense sex :)

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